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+Summary of Gentoo council meeting 2021-11-14
+
+
+
+Agenda [1]
+==========
+
+1. Roll call
+2. Dropping hppa, ppc, sparc and x86 to ~arch-only status [2]
+3. Opening the range 60001..60999 (with possible later extension to
+higher IDs) for allocation of additional UIDs and GIDs [3]
+4. Open bugs with Council participation [4]
+5. Open floor
+
+
+
+Roll call
+=========
+
+Present: dilfridge, gyakovlev, marecki, mattst88, mgorny, sam, ulm
+
+
+
+Dropping hppa, ppc, sparc and x86 to ~arch-only status [2]
+==========================================================
+
+* The current open arch bug numbers were reviewed and discussed.
+* There was no clear agreement whether ~arch-only architectures are
+ significantly more difficult to handle (e.g. in terms if stage builds).
+* Specifically for ppc it was mentioned that many stable keywords date back to
+ 2003-2006 and might be dropped to ~ppc on a per-package basis.
+* Sam started collecting arch-testing documentation at
+ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Sam/Arch_testing
+* For ppp, sparc, and x86 we have ample hardware testing capability.
+* For hppa, two additional machines will be made accessible soon.
+
+For all four architectures a separate vote on dropping to ~arch only was held:
+* hppa : 1 yes, 6 no, 0 abstentions, motion not passed
+* ppc : 0 yes, 6 no, 1 abstention, motion not passed
+* sparc: 0 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions, motion not passed
+* x86 : 2 yes, 5 no, 0 abstentions, motion not passed
+
+A bug was filed to make the council regularly re-asses architecture status.
+
+
+
+Opening the range 60001..60999 (with possible later extension to
+higher IDs) for allocation of additional UIDs and GIDs [3]
+================================================================
+
+* Using 60001..60999 is not possible since these are treated specially by
+ systemd (bug 823732, [5])
+* Instead we use part of the range now reserved for dynamic allocation,
+ in the hope that when numbers get scarce again the systemd issue will be
+ resolved.
+
+Motion: uid and gid 500-749 are made available for allocation via acct-* as
+system accounts
+Carried with 5 yes, 1 no, 1 abstain
+
+
+
+Open bugs with council participation [4]
+========================================
+
+* bug 821553, "Document upgrade path policy" [6]
+ Nothing actionable here.
+
+* bug 786105, "access to manage projects on GH" [7]
+ This was pending discussion on the mailing list, which never took place.
+ The bug is closed NEEDINFO.
+
+
+
+Open floor
+==========
+
+* Michał brought up the idea of separating arches into support tiers. While
+ this idea found positive reception, more details are needed and mailing list
+ discussion was suggested.
+
+* There was a discussion about accidentally dropping keywords in outdated PR's
+ (with the conclusion that this should not be done, and that the merging
+ developer should check as of current policy).
+
+* Keywords in "if clauses" in live ebuilds are in the end the responsibility
+ of the package maintainer, since the details on how to handle them may differ
+ from package to package.
+
+
+
+[1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/4102bb0a1037dea0c07f30bfc3116a3f
+[2] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/253dc6b0b980133305f8661d4093f664
+[3] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/87bd3e5f66e034e8fb54d71c97254681
+[4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council#Open_bugs_with_Council_participation
+[5] https://bugs.gentoo.org/823732
+[6] https://bugs.gentoo.org/821553
+[7] https://bugs.gentoo.org/786105
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