
\summary{2007}{6}{14}

Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{f9049f5782d6b6929374d45acda0b8e7}


\agendaitem{Council membership}
\index{council!members}

The Council approves by vote that \dev{jaervosz} takes the seat vacated by
\dev{kloeri}.


\agendaitem{Using Git to access the PMS repo}
\index{package!dev-vcs/git}\index{PMS}

\dev{robbat2} shall write documentation on using Git to access the PMS 
repository (which presently just mirrors the external SVN repository). \dev{spb}
is to bug \dev{robbat2} if he doesn't get that documentation.


\agendaitem{Handling of mailing lists, including proctors and moderation}
\index{mailing lists}\index{mailing list!gentoo-project}
\index{mailing list!gentoo-dev}\index{project!proctors}
\index{Code of Conduct}\index{freenode!catalyst}
\index{project!devrel}

A lengthy discussion about handling of the mailing lists, including proctors and
moderation, took place.\footnote{This is the first council meeting after the 
proctors were instated and tried to implement bans, which were quickly revoked
on the insistence of \dev{wolf31o2} (?). Citations needed.} This discussion 
specifically included the question whether the Proctors should get more time
to establish themselves. 

A vote is proposed for:
\begin{enumerate}
 \item 
 A separate unmoderated gentoo-project mailing list is created (in the fashion of 
 Debian's -project). 
 \item
 The gentoo-devel list becomes moderated for non-@gentoo senders, as well as any 
 @gentoo senders that have flame-ish tendencies.
 \item
 Moderators are a seperate and more open group from proctors. They are mainly
 developers, and are expected to show good judgement (see Catalyst item).
\end{enumerate}

The decision is made to send the above to -dev list for discussion, and have an
intermediate meeting in 2 weeks. A non-binding vote by council\footnote{Non-binding
since there's ``a screen full of people wanting us to not vote on this today''
who can't speak on the moderated channel...} gets 4 yes votes and one no.
  
\dev{musikc} had sent an email to the Council about the proctors process and 
the CoC. This leads into a discussion of the FreeNode Catalyst system, which was 
a partial basis for the CoC. There was rough agreement that in an ideal world 
all developers should act as positive catalysts, but this is a lot harder than
it seems.

In addition there was consensus that Devrel should work together with the
Proctors on procedures for applying their ``powers''; a revised proposal shall
be presented in a week. 

\begin{enumerate}
 \item 
 The moderation discussion needs to be integrated into \dev{musikc}'s document.
 \item
 More catalyst material should be added into the CoC per Proctor's revisions.
\end{enumerate}
