<+jsmolic> I'll proxy for dilfridge today <@mgorny> jsmolic: did you file form PROXY-1? [20:00] <@ulm> !proj council (council@gentoo.org) ajak, dilfridge, gyakovlev, mattst88, mgorny, sam, ulm <@sam_> (yes I do h/l on sam :)) <@ulm> the gentoo council is now in session! <+jsmolic> mgorny: hm which form? <@ulm> roll call * mattst88 here * sam_ here <@mattst88> jsmolic: he's just joking :) <@mgorny> jsmolic: sorry, need to be serious now! [20:01] * mgorny here <+jsmolic> lol I figured :D * ajak here * jsmolic here (proxy for dilfridge) * ulm here <@ulm> gyakovlev: <@ulm> let's wait until :05 [20:02] * gyakovlev here <@ulm> meanwhile, the agenda is here: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/4692303bc07a053aa29cc839854202f7 <@gyakovlev> sorry for delay [20:03] <@ulm> open bugs <@ulm> bug 729062 ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; IN_P; jstein:council <@sam_> I think we agreed that one should really be closed as there's nothing for us to do <@ulm> no progress, and presumably it's not actionable for us <@sam_> If someone wants to make a proper proposal, they can <@sam_> yeah <+antarus> I'm confused [20:04] <@mattst88> I think we've now collectively spent about 10x more time discussing this than Whissi ever did <@ulm> antarus: ? <@sam_> yep <@ulm> so we close it? <+antarus> why are you not doing anything? [20:05] <@ajak> it's not really clear what needs to be done <+antarus> like in comment #0 <@sam_> because it's not for the council to discuss "how we want to add this to our pillars and how we can implement it? Perhaps add to the Social Contract?" <@sam_> that's something we do on the LM <@sam_> *ML <@sam_> then someone proposes a change to the council <@sam_> we don't come up with the changes ourselves, generally <@sam_> that's how we've agreed to operate in gentoo <+antarus> so you should assign the bug to jstein? [20:06] <@ajak> i'd also say it's not really worth it to mirror *everything* gentoo might depend on in some way <@sam_> sure, doesn't bother me <+antarus> sure, I mostly agree with mgorny's statement <@mattst88> let's reassign and please not discuss this again next month [20:07] <+antarus> I'm just trying to make clear the next steps ;) <@ulm> reassigned [20:08] <+antarus> ty <@ulm> the other two bugs are not public <+antarus> I mean I'd probably write more than that, but i'm happy ot do it <@ulm> mgorny: can we close #886347? <@mgorny> ulm: i suppose so <@ulm> please do [20:09] <@mgorny> i'll check the status, leave a comment and close <@ulm> thanks <@ulm> open floor then <@ulm> anything? <@mgorny> antarus: while you're here, what's happening wrt OC? <@mgorny> are we waiting on them? [20:10] <+antarus> nope, waiting on robin and I <+antarus> but we are busy filing FY2022 taxes Do we have an "Official Gentoo Discord Server" ( https://discord.gg/gentoolinux ) ? I ask because this was announced today in our forum: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1161618-highlight-.html [20:11] <+antarus> books are ready to send to the CPA, so hopefully we will have time in Feb / March <@ajak> pietinger: not really a topic for here, but: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Public_Relations ajak: Thank you ! [20:12] <@ulm> anything else? [20:13] * ajak head shaking <@mattst88> nothing here * ulm bangs the gavel <@ulm> meeting closed <@sam_> thank you! [20:14] *** ulm (~ulm@gentoo/developer/ulm) has set the topic for #gentoo-council: "235th meeting: 2023-03-12 19:00 UTC | https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20230312T19 | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council | https://dev.gentoo.org/~dilfridge/decisions.pdf" <@ajak> thanks! <@ulm> ajak: you'll be chairing <@mgorny> thanks! <@ajak> yes <@gyakovlev> thanks! that was quick. <+floppym> For those in North America, daylight saving time starts on March 12, so don't show up an hour early. [20:17]